In this episode of The Walk, host Joshua Swanson sits down with artist, songwriter, and worship leader Mack Brock for a powerful and honest conversation about learning to embrace the process over the outcome. Mack opens up about the pressures of growing up as a pastor’s kid, the struggles of “checking the boxes” in faith, and the lessons God is teaching him about waiting and trusting in the journey.

With relatable stories from scripture, such as Joseph and David, and personal reflections about his son’s wrestling journey, Mack reminds us that the real “good stuff” happens in the daily walk with Jesus—not just in reaching the end goal. He also shares a heartfelt prayer and encourages us to root our identity in Christ, not in external achievements.

Don’t miss this encouraging and inspiring episode! Be sure to listen to the end for Mack’s song Time and Time Again, written alongside Josh Baldwin and Hank Bentley.

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