*This episode mentions suicide and may not be suitable for all listeners.*

This week, we’ll hear from BeBe Winans, a celebrated figure in gospel and R&B music from the renowned Winans family, known for their deep-rooted musical legacy. Raised in a household steeped in gospel traditions and surrounded by the influences of Motown, Bebe experienced some of the ups and downs of the music scene as he and his sister, CeCe Winans, ultimately rose to fame as a beloved singing duo.

Later in the episode, we’ll hear from Tasha Cobbs Leonard, a powerful worship leader, pastor, and entrepreneur. Raised in a faith-filled family, Tasha was encouraged by her father, a pastor, to embrace her gifts. A “divine setup” led to her first album, and she went on to inspire millions with songs like "Break Every Chain," which grew from her own battle with depression.

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Jesus Calling Podcast

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Past interview: Gloria Gaynor

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BeBe Winans

CeCe Winans

Motown

Mighty Clouds of Joy

Shirley Caesar

Andraé Crouch

Smokey Robinson

Stevie Wonder

Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker

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Bebe and CeCe

Keith Thomas

“Father In Heaven [Right Now]”

Luke 12:48 NIV

Tasha Cobbs Leonard

“Break Every Chain”

Naomi Raine

Luke 14:23 NIV

www.tashacobbsleonard.com

Do It Anyway

Interview Quotes:

“Your gift will make room. What you have to go through is okay. It does work out if you believe and continue to have faith in what God has called you to do.” - BeBe Winans

“I'm amazed at the doors that God opens. I find myself in places that I never dreamed of and working with people I never thought I would.” - BeBe Winans

“There's such a roller coaster of emotions that we are blessed with because of what God has done through us, through music. It really never gets old to hear what our music has done for others.” - BeBe Winans

“We live in a world where we are consumed with, ‘Hey, this is the