*This episode mentions violence and may not be suitable for all listeners.*

This week, we’re joined by two remarkable guests: former Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison and evangelist Preston Perry. Both have navigated complex challenges, from political arenas to personal struggles, all while remaining deeply committed to their faith in God.

Scott Morrison reflects on his time as Prime Minister of Australia, leading through natural disasters, global crises, and the balancing act of being a husband and father. He offers a candid glimpse into how his relationship with God sustained him during his years in public service.

Later, we’ll hear from Preston Perry, a poet, author, teacher, apologist, and evangelist from the South Side of Chicago. Growing up in challenging circumstances, Preston’s life took a transformative turn through a series of encounters with mentors and personal tragedies, guiding him to discover God’s purpose and use his gifts to reach others through his powerful words.

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Interview Quotes:

“In our home, it was not about what you accumulated as what you contributed.” - Scott Morrison

“I don't know how people do politics and don't have faith. Frankly, I don't know how they survive it. You've got to be able to know what you're about and what you're trying to achieve. And that can't be about you.” - Scott Morrison 

“I really drew on my faith to give me that strength, to give me that endurance, to give me that resilience, to give me the hope and the optimism that I so often needed. And it was a refuge. It was a storehouse.” - Scott Morrison

“By all means, stand up for the principles of God, and then the Word of God and what His eternal standards are. Hold fast to those things. Let's not forget what the goal is. The goal is to honor Him and glorify Him.” - Scott Morrison 

“You are, as a human being, created by His hand, in His image, for His glory. That means you're special. He had His designs for you before you were even born. And when you ground your identity in that, then the storms come and you can weather them.” - Scott Morrison  

“I think what my grandmother's words showed me was that this God that she served was real and tangible. It wasn't just behavior modification. It wasn't just duties. It wasn't just standing outside, passing out your literature. This real God was able to come and give her strength and joy and comfort her in her time of need.” - Preston Perry 

“Jesus came for souls. He didn't come to look smart or intelligent or to look like He knew better than the next man, or just win arguments. He wanted to win people. And so if the information we know is what we find our identity in and not the God that we know, we'll always treat people like projects and not image bearers.“ - Preston Perry

“I've learned in evangelism to ask good questions. Because when you ask good questions, people teach you how to serve them.” - Preston Perry 

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